It just blew my mind! Theres got to be a proper explanation. I mean, I liked Snape!

My theory, Snape's really good. Part of some big plan with Dumbledor, who may or may not actually be dead.

i already know what i think

"Well, I think Dumbledores dead, but I really hope Snapes good. And what do you think Squall?

Dumbledore is dead. Snape is evil. that's what I think.

that Dumbledore is not dead, and there was a switch made at the last moment. sometime, ill get a link to the website that i found the theopry on. the evidence for it is excellent, and i believe it.

WHAT?!?!?! How could there have been a switch?! He went RIGHT to the grounds after their trip and Dumbledore wouldn't be that much of a coward!!! AND it couldn't have been unwillingly because Dumbledore was the most powerful wizard around! I think that he really is gone, and Harry is going to have to accept that.

I think Snape is EVIL! I only like Snape in the fanfictions I read because they are so funny! I think Snape is ALWAYS going to be a deatheater, but I don't know if he'll play a big part in the last book...

ive changed my perspective now, JK said Dumbledore is dead, so he's dead. however, if you wanted to really know about the switch, it was made when Harry went to get his invisibility cloak, and it was a switch between Slughorn and Dumbers. the evidence given in the book is astounding, but apparently it wasnt to be.

Yes, and maybe it's a perfect way to start out the seventh book?
Rowling already talked about why she needed to get rid of Dumbledore. It's going to make Harry more mature, and ready to face the challenges ahead.
Considering it's the last one, and is probably going to have the darkest tone of all, with a whole lot of conspiracies going on, with (my opinion) Harry dying at the end...

I dont think so. Harry has been written about for 6 books, his character has been built up, he has fought the Dark lord and escaped him for so many times. IT is time for the last in teh series, a battle between them....and he dies.

What a totally useless ending. I would be very unsatisfied if Harry Dies as I dont think it really lives up to a childrens book. Children do not want to see evil triumph over good. Good always wins and to have him die would be simple preposterous.

Yes. If Harry dies at all, It would probably be while he was killing Voldemort in the process..and the good side takes over from there. Evil can't conquer good in children's book.
I think Snape really is evil..but I want to believe it was Dumbledor's plan for him to kill him or something like that..

It's not totally unthinkable.

Other important characters were killed off, and Rowling made it clear her series wasn't for young children, either, considering the dark tone of the books, and the bloodthirsty way that Voldemort has pursued after Harry, most of those times, he just barely managed to escape.

Yeah, a duel with both of them dying is more likely, because then he would represent the tragic heroic figure, I don't think Rowling will want to fall for the stereotype of Harry riding in like a knight in shining armor after he kills Voldy, that'd just be total bullshit, IMO.

Meh, whatever, to each their own. I personally don't see the book ending without some kind of huge tragedy going on. If it's not Harry, it's probably either Ron or Hermione.

I don't see any of the trio dying, nor do I see any of the Weasleys dying either... JKR has spent too much time with Harry to kill him off, and she says that Hermione was much like her... Maybe Hagrid? I have thought that he was going to get the axe for the longest time...

If Hagrid dies..
I'll cry more than when Dumbledore died.
And even more than when Sirius died.

It would be the most logical person to die... The one with the most attachment that isn't a major one...

holly, u said evil cant conquer good in a kids book. first of all, harry potter isnt intended for just kids. it was supposed to be for younge adults, as in people over 12 lol

but then kid kids started reading &.... wala

It's in the kids section in the bookstore. I know it's not just intended for kids, though.
And it would just be so stupid to kill off the main character. I hate when that happens. I know it will make more obvious or whatever that there wont be any more books..but still.

thats JK's point. she wants to kill em off to prevent other books on her series

Well...I'd rather Harry die than like..Hagrid. Or Lupin. =]

ditto

If harry dies Ill have harshing under the imperious and have him wear a skirt dancing around hogwarts singing "Jericho".

Its not going to happen. Think about it guys. If harry dies whats the moral of the story? That evil is better, thats not going to happen.

"Neither can live while the other survives"

Is the line that needs studying from the prophecy.

firstly, Aurora has been warned and suspended for bad language, even if in the OOC section its unacceptable.

Ron and Hermione wont die, im almost certain. i do think theres the possibilty that Harry and Voldemort will double kill, but unlikely, whilst its not a childrens book, JK would be killed if Harry died.

at least 2 characters die. one of which has to be Voldemort, or it wouldnt be the end.

the other... Ginny, Hagrid, Lupin (not likely, ill say why in a sec)

these are close to Harry, Ginny and Hagrid being closest. my bet is on one of those 3

but not Lupin. Lupin wont die. the nicknames went in the order "Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs" Prongs died first, then Padfoot, Wormtail is next.

I find it funny that you guys are so convinced that you know exactly what's going to happen in the 7th book. Rowling isn't THAT predictable. Let's just wait and see, shall we?





PS. :rolleyes:

That's the point of this forum is to speculate on what may, or may not happen. If you don't want to see what other people think about the books, and what may or may not happen, don't read this forum.

Didn't she say two signifigant deaths? I think petigrew would be a minor death because Jo already said he would repay his life debt to harry... Meaning he might die... I think it's gonna be Voldemort and Lupin that are the major deaths, with Lupin dieing after Petigrew...

What do you guys think about the theory that, in order for a Horcrux to be destroyed, someone must relive the victim's, or Voldemorts memory of the event/death that happened for that particular horcrux. If you think about the horcruxes that have already been destroyed and have had the location of them found, Ginny, and Harry relived the memory of when riddle was at school for the diary, and when dumbledore was drinking the liquid in the goblet, he was begging for his death. Maybe a sign that Voldemort tortured those kids he killed in the cave?

Aurora: like Finn said, we are speculating, however it is normal speaking terms that we just say "lupin will die" for our opinions rather than "i believe in my own opinion, which may or may not be true because we dont actually know what will be happening until JK releases it, that lupin will die"

Finn: she keeps chanmging the number of deaths, but you could be right. i dont think pettigrew dying is major, i was just using that as a reason why Lupin wont die. i dont believe either of the remaining marauders will die to be honest. i think thats a waste.

im not sure on this, firstly, Voldemort did not kill the children in the cave. it was said "they havent been the same since" which suggests they have lived since. Voldemort was just a young boy in that cave, so what he could do is unknown. he didnt have a wand for a start. but the other children were small too, so Voldemort could do something minor and it be major to them. he could "make them hurt", like he said

but we dont know what the potion did to Dumbledore. was it to control him, immobilise him or otherwise incapacitate him? you could be right, but until we know the potions effects, we can't say for sure.

and what about the ring? what would Dumbledore have relived to get that which hurt his hand so badly, not to mention he was really hurt and had to be helped by snape upon his return.

No, I was only commenting about it because all of you were saying stuff to me like "That'll never happen, THIS is what's going to happen," and it p*ssed me off, and Finn, seriously, get a life, and stop harassing everyone all the time, it's getting really old.

dont start arguing. i personally didnt see anything wrong with what Finn said. there was no harassment on there. you are being warned for possibly causing offense to a member.

yesterday you were suspended for swearing, and now you are being warned again. thats another day suspension

That's one of the holes in the theory is that we don't know how dumbledore destroyed the ring... This is what else I don't get about the locket. Why wouldn't Voldemort make certain that Harry couldn't get into the area with a horcrux, if he was going to make a horcrux barrier like that.

he did his best to keep people out. even Dumbledore, the greatest wizard of all time, said that the defenses were strong. Harry COULDN'T have done it without Dumbledore

Possibly?
Please, I'm sure Finn's gotten away with much worse. And you know what? I think both of you need to stop taking sides. This is beyond ridiculous, you really need to check your moderation system.
Just because I have a different opinion than you, doesn't mean you have to bash my side and claim that you're right. That's just as bad as bringing someone down, it's called, having an over-inflated ego.
I'm not gonna tolerate much more of this. I can't even say one slightly bad word, that's censored, without you guys just throwing out warnings left and right, spawning up rules as you go. I read the rules and it said, "Please use judgment censoring swear words." It never said, "God forbid you say anything slightly offensive to anyone on this Earth, or you'll be suspended!"

yeah? did you read "be courteous to all members on the site, no matter what you have between you?" obviously not. you are currently going against an admin decision, which can result in more warnings and suspension. i said no arguing. and telling people to get a life can be offensive. whether Finn finds it offensive or not, it can be, so i you are warned.

and Finn has not got away with anything, he has been suspended twice i believe. we do not take sides, we treat everyone the same. you break a rule, you get punished, Finn breaks the same rule, he gets punished. heck, even if Adam broke a rule, he would get the same punishment.

so, once again i find myself clicking the warn meter for your account.

and this time, no arguing at all. it wont be tolerated

Yes, sir.

Then, Tell Finn to read that first part, too, then.

Finn has been warned multiple times for various reasons.

you are just digging a deeper and deeper grave. with one more warning your name gets posted as the first one in the new topic i created yesterday in the staff forum. named "ban list"

Um.

Is that supposed to intimidate me?

BAN me? On what grounds?

"She disagreed with us about something and posted in a thread, so she got banned."

Sounds... fair... and full of righteousness.

Yes sir.

3 counts of bad language (against the rules) 2 counts of going against the courtesy rule, 2 counts of ignoring admin decision, 2 counts of going against admin decision.

i think that repetoire is enough to get you banned. if you post in this topic again arguing against this, or indeed if you argue further via another method, you shall recieve the final warning. im not standing for this any longer.

No, the only thing I'm doing right now is merely defending myself, and you're threatening to ban me, for replying to you.

You have no right to do that, considering I didn't actually do anything else.

We have every right to do anything we want to, I sgned up for this forum and in that process the forum was given to me on the circumstance that I am obliged to allow advertisements on the site and I must follow rules by invisionfree.

I inturn delegated the shared ownership to Mel, Tim and Kiley like on the Lumos before and about a month ago I removed my wrongful supremecy over this site and now we rule and own this forum in a Quadumvirate.

So we have the right to do anything we want if it complies with the invisionfree rules, and fortuneatley we have the right to deny your freedom of speech if it is courseing offense and winding people up.

Aurora we have had little trouble from you efore this occassion and you have been a dedicated member, if Finn is following you and harrasing you, which I have seen no evidence against, I urge you to contact an admin and we will try and find evidence. But you have dealt with this ina childish and arguementitive fashion and have broken many rules since your second suspension. The adult manor would have consisted of facing your punishment and not doing it again but instead of deterring you against rule breaking it seems to have flamed your intentional distruption.

You will be warned and considered for banning, you will have your posts monitered for the pending time in which you may PM a long and lengthy apology if you wish to keep membership - this apology is neither cause for admins to change minds.

Yours in Regard,

Adam
Lumos Administrator.

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