I have just completed The Deathly Hallows. This is the official afterthoughts topic.

I loved it. It was such a satisfying conclusion and it ended the years of emotional journeys, that we as readers have been taken on.

you're finished?! I'm on page 187. And having difficulty paying attention. The characters have changed alot, I think. Especially Hermione, she's so... grown up.

Hermione is so grown up, I agree she has really altered - its a good change though.

I'm about half way through after having started around one pm. I am so far liking it.

I don't quite like Ron right now.

I'm done. I loved it. I just have to say that Mrs. Weasley owned my soul at the end of the book. You'll see why when you get there. lol.


I basically adored the entire thing. I'll wait to talk about it more once more people are done.


~Mel

I don't recall JKR using that term in that way before...

I thought it was excellent. The beginning and middle seemed like they were written by someone other than JKR... it's probably because they were written at different times. I didn't feel that the deaths were meaningful. They weren't really main characters... I think that Harry definitely got the reprieve. It would have been easy to write in the Nineteen years later part about Hermione and Ron defeating Voldemort.

I thought that the reason for Harry having his mothers eyes was bad...

She's going to have requests to hear about their kids though... I doubt she will write about them, but I think she is going to hear requests about wanting a book about their kids.

Oh, you know it'll happen. If she doesn't write it, someone will beg her for rights so THEY can write it and there will be a great lawsuit and it will be brilliant. lol.



~Mel

I thought the beginning was awesome. The reason the middle may have sagged a tiny bit is because there was no Hogwarts. There was no underlying notion of quidditch and classes and stuff like that to fill the duller parts. We had solid characterisation. Although, saying that, I thought the middle was still good for example the Godrics Hollow part with Nagini erupting from Bathilda.

I think Hagrid got the Reprieve. I think she always planned for Harry to live, it makes more sense for a lesser character to be reprieved. Hagrid was so close to dying throughout the book. I was waiting and waiting but he never did.

personally i loved it.

all of the deaths were meaningless to me though. for example, i thought a more meaningful death would have been Ginny or Ron or Hermione, not Fred, Moody and Tonks. Lupin's was meaningful, and i nearly cried my eyes out at Fred, but i didn't think it was necessary.

personally, i hated the epilogue. it was stupid really. too few pages and not enough content to tell us what was happening. for example, what was Harry doing now? the only thing i really got from it is that he's having lots of sex with Ginny.

the final battle was excellent. and i mean the whole war, not just Harry vs Voldemort. Mrs. Weasley was brilliant, i can't wait for that in the film. Julie Walters going mad, it'll be mint.

however, i did think the middle sagged. i think it was too focused. there were few other characters for the trio to communicate with, and that meant for long passages of needless description.

also, i thought the last two horcruxes were a bit rushed. i was thinking as i got to the end of the book, "how is she going to get both of them in this short space of time?" and ill be perfectly honest, i didn't think she was going to do it, but when she did, i was disappointed with it.

the book on the whole was an excellent finale to an amazing series. only one problem though

IT'S ALL OVER!

meh... re-read.

When that 600 million starts depleting of hers she will write more... lol

As for the deaths I felt that Dobby's was the most upsetting. Freds was, yes but Dobby has done more with Harry in terms of story than the others - Everyone keeps forgetting about Dobby, but how can they? Dobby has been there since book 2. He was so innocent, and killed so quickly.

I was expecting Ginny and Hagrid to go. And to be honest, they should have done to make deaths more meaningful. No Main character died.

The end was Disney Like.

Sleeping on it, I thought this was one of the worst books of the series. Everything was rushed, and the parts that weren't had little to do with the things we wanted to know about. I thought the questions we were wondering would have been answered better. I thought there would be something more meaningful behind Lily's eyes rather than they were the reason that Snape agreed to help the Order.

Overall, I would have prefered if she would have kept the book for 6 months and made it better. Too much was coincidental. It seemed that she had written herself into a corner, and rather than rewrite it, she just continued on. I thought parts were ridiculous.

Come on, Ron speaking parseltongue to get into the chamber to get basilisk fangs? How did they get out? Can they fly like voldemort?

I finished the book yesterday. I loved it. I went through half a box of tissues. lol

I did think that Dobby's death was the most significant and I cried a lot at that part. Mostly for the same reason that adam mentined, that he was so innocent and good. I thought that Fred's death wasn't necessary but I still found it depressing. And I think that Tonk's and Lupin's death, as a whole, both of them dying, was significant. I would have been really upset had hagrid died...I'm glad he didn't. I adore him.

I expected the epologue to be different. I would have liked to know what harry, ron, and hermionie did for a living since they never finished their 7th year, and what they did about that. And i would have liked to know if Teddy did indeed becaome a multicolored werewolf pup like mel and I wanted really despertly to happen. And I really would like to know more about Harry's kids.

I think that the thing with harry excepting that he would have to die and going to meet his death was wonderful. It's a good look at how much the character had matured.

I think that Rupert Grint is going to be really good in this movie. With the stabbing of the horcrux and all. And Mrs. Weasley....omg. I like, cheered when she shouted that at bellitrix.

All in all, I really enjoyed the book. I'm so sad that it's over.

He was a multi-colored baby, if not a multi-colored werewolf pup.


And Finn- It said that Ron had a broomstick with him.


I sobbed over Dobby's death, even though about a page before it I was laughing hysterically screaming "OH MY GOD, DOBBY'S THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA!" since he made the chandelier drop. lol. And after thinking about it for a while, his death reminded me of Les Mis. The book, though.

And I was getting really tired whenever I started reading the Gringotts part, so whenever the one security guard's name was revealed to be Marius, I almost forgot what book I was reading. lol.

I'm a pathetic loser, I know, shut up. lol.


But the fact that Harry came back because he was willing to die gave the pathetic LOST and HP fans hope for a character on LOST. I'm not saying who because I don't know where Britain is in terms of the series even though I probably spoiled it a long time ago. lol.

And yeah, Rupert Grint is going to be fantabulous in the movie. Daniel Radcliffe is going to make my brain explode because....augh. Emma Watson probably will too.

I think Ginny should've been in it more. She was so important in the last two books that it just felt weird that she wasn't really there a lot.

~Mel

i know it's personal oppinion Finn, and i respect that, but i disagree with this being one of the worst books. that has to go to COS or POA i'm afraid, for the simple fact they had little to do with the plot of Harry Potter. at least Deathly Hallows did. personally, i put this above Order Of The Phoenix, but below Goblet Of Fire and Half Blood Prince. the end was brilliant, and the writing was superb.

i have one thing wrong, and thats the boring middle. fortunately, providing we get a director with a brain, which i admit are few and far between, this can be skipped over in two minutes.

the film to this book should be incredible. the last sequence will be so cinematic.

we know if JKR writes more on Harry Potter people will be disappointed. after all, she will write that he commits suicide because his wife and kids are ginger. (it's and English joke people. don't start trying to ban me because of it.)

I would have preferred if she didn't go into the Deathly hallows unless all of them were horcruxes. Just about everything that happened in that book was dumb luck or chance. She set it up so that Deathly Hallows could have been the best book of our generation. If there would have been some rhyme or reason to where they went, how they found horcruxes, and how they found gryffindors sword, it would have been better.

Half Blood Prince was by far the best book of the series.

<_<


Watch who you say that around, Tim, watch who you say that around. I've even been called a ginger in a derogatory way by people in my school; Americans! Well...they do it because of South Park. God d*mned TV show. It's stupid anyway. They're convinced that we have this whole underground city or something.


:rolleyes:

Yeah, I am gonna complain a lot.



Be afraid, be very afraid. lol. jk. I like you too much to exert my evil gingery powers on you.

Anywho, back to the book. This was probably my second favorite after OotP. Maybe third, cause HBP was pretty awesome too. I'm not quite sure. I do agree that the middle was just sort of...meh...but I do feel that the description of the Hallows was important, seeing as they were sort of important at the end.



~Mel

JKR just announced that Arthur Weasley got the reprieve.

Even if she had included this death, I don't think it would have been significant. She said that he was going to die in book five but she couldn't stand to kill him.

She also said that she is going to write an encyclopedia about character back stories.

I was disappointed with this announcement. I think we were all under the impression that one of the trio was going to die. Now that this has come out, it's terrible. No one would have cared if she had killed Arthur Weasley.

Arthur Weasley wouldn't have mattered in the slightest to me.

Mel: don't you think Harry Potter has gone too far? i mean... there's a ginger kid with TWO friends! how did that happen? not realistic.

(trademark Adam)

sorry, hee hee.

and calling someone ginger isn't really derogatory around these parts, unless you got in a fight with the person calling you ginger. then it's just stupid.

"i'm angry at you, so i'm going to describe your appearance"

is basically what they're saying. it's like racism. can you imagine trying to insult someone by calling them white? doesn't work!

ginger's just a joke. like the people.

(sorry)

lol. Arthur wouldnt have mattered really.

And now we know why there was a crap epilogue. So she can make even more money from an encyclopedia.

Because she really needs more money... I bet she has enough money so that her kids, her grandkids, and her great grandkids will never have to work a day in their lives if they don't want to. She could probably finance some uncles and stuff too...

Finn she had enough money after POA, she wasn't going to make the rest of the series royalty free? Human Beings are greedy and she will accumulate more income from an encyclopedia (which will be more than any of the series books).

if you can make money, why shouldn't you? so she's the second richest female entertainer ever, and the richest author ever, but still, what does it matter?n it's only money that we would never have seen anyway.

She is basically ensuring many generations of Rowlings wont ever have to work for a living. I agree with Tim - If you can make money, you should.

i seriously don't see any problem with the encyclopaedia. i know that people are saying "yeah, she wrote a crap epilogue so that she could write this thing to make more money" BUT we will be treated to another dosage of the Potter world, not to mention a lot of thing that would not have been put solely into the epilogue. for example, she's doing the full back history of Dean Thomas, which is a character she has had mapped out in as much detail as Harry himself. this would not fit into the epilogue, and fits nowhere in the books. so how do we find out? the encyclopaedia, that's how.

i'm looking forward to it.

also, can i add that the topic is book seven discussion? talking about the encyclopaedia is a little off topic. might i suggest that this topic reverts back to Deathly Hallows, and we have a separate topic for the next instalment of the series?

Someone mentioned Teddy being a multicoloured werewolf pup (i think it was Mel) and it came to mind when i was reading through this (link) and spotted J.K.R's answer of:

It just thought I'd mention it here, since i remembered the image of a multicoloured werewolf pup so clearly. Its a shame really.