The Mayans had predicted thousands of years ago that the end of the world will occur on December 21, 2021. There have been other civilizations that predicted a global diaster on that date. Sometimes it's just that year that they predict, others it's on that exact date.

On one hand, people have predicted the end of the world for centuries and been wrong. But on the other hand, the mayan calander is extreamly accurate....more accurate than the one that we use today. And they had predicted many other thinsg that came true, such as the arrival of cortez, the fall of their own empire, and supposedly the first and second world wars.


So what do you think? Is it prophecy or coincidence?

The prediction is sooner than that, it is actually December of 2012...

Their calender looks like a wheel with cogs... 2012 is the latest year on the chart, but it may just be that the wheel starts over again...

I don't put too much faith in these predictions... If you look through history, millions of these predictions have been wrong... Then again... Someone has to be right

Yeah, that's what I said.


There have been many people that said that that could be the end of the world. I don't know. I tihnk something will happen then, I don't know if it'll be the end of the world or not.

But either way, I tihnk it's gonna be bad. Even if nothing happens, people are going to freak out. Remember Y2K? yeah, it'll be like that times 5.

you said 2021, not 2012...

Y2K had to do with the computers being unable to change the date over, not with the end of the world... Believe it or not, people used to live without electricity and without technology.

This will be nothing like Y2K... We have no idea what it is like to not exist.

Also, this date is not the "end of the world" it is a "time of great change". It has been speculated that humans may be wiped off the planet, but nobody knows for sure. This date is supposed to be a change...

I think that, as long as people believe something will happen, it will happen. It can't just be like, 3 people, though, it has to be a lot. The more people that believe it mean the more influence there is on events. It could be that these things aren't predictions at all, but, because humans believed that they would happen, someone did something that caused it. Do you know what I mean? It's a psychological thing.


I don't believe it. So many people have predicted the end of the world or 'great changes' and other big things that haven't happened. It's true that a number of them HAVE happened, but a lot still haven't. It's all based on human suspicion.

OOH, YAY, CRUCIBLE MOMENT.


It's like in The Crucible, one person says something and slowly people start to believe it until, finally, something happens because of it, because they influenced it. That's why I don't believe that it's the end of the world. The only way that it could happen is if there were about 300 nukes that went off at once. Maybe there could be a great change though, but nothing as major as what we've been speculating. Maybe Canada, Mexico, and America will all combine to make one huge country, maybe the Panama Canal will be destroyed, maybe a city will be partially submerged in water, it could be ANYTHING. I think we just want to believe that it's something completely awful because humans do that. lol.



~Mel

Arg... We are reading that in my APLA class... My teacher insists that we go and read with the regular LA class and we have to stop every time there is a word longer than five letters long and define it for them...

oh, I read your thing wrong. I ment 2012. I was thinking about how I'll be almost 21 when it happens and I typed that on accident.

Caitlin, I think you're talking about a self fullfiling prophecy....but what they think might happen is on a much larger scale. On December 21, 2012, a whole bunch of planets or the sun or something (I forget, it's late and I'm half asleep) will line up, this happens once every 25,700 years or something. And they think that when this happens, this could cause the shifting of the poles. This would, needless to say, cause major drstic climate changes resulting in the extinction of many species.

I know people lived without computers. That's not what I ment. I ment the reaction from the people. I was in 3rd grade when it happened, but I remember my mom and I going to the grocery store and buying a cart full or bgallons of water and non parishable foods and canned goods. We filled up all the sinks and the bathtub with water just in case and she explained to me that, just incase the computers shut off, we would have water and food and about how we'd take baths and stuff. I dunno why, but I remember standing in my bathroom, looking at the tub and thinking about how cold the water will be.

And I know for a fact that some people went crazier than that.

But if people thought the wolrd was going to end, then we could have mass suicide and robbery and crazy people running around. Every read The Stand by Stephen King? I did and it scared the s**t out of me. At the beginning almost all the world is wiped out by the a super strain of the flu that kills you in days. And when people think they're gonna die, their instincts take over and they do crazy things. So even if the world doesn't end, we're still going to have a terrible mess on our hands.



And about the nukes, the count down is currently at 5 minutes to midnight as of January 11th, 2007, I believe. It would take a lot less than 300 nukes to end the world. (this is off topic sort of but I don't care) We're ruining the world anyway, but nobody's doing anything because they think that we don't have the capability of ruining the planet unless we hit midnight. Global warming? yeah. that's happening. the killing of innocent people, which breeds hate, yeah, happening too. corrupt government, yeah. And not just in the US. You guys should get this month's rolling stone (the one with kid rock on the cover) or get on rollingstone.com and read the article called not dealing with reality. I love it, it's so true. I have it coppied and taped to my wall and I've already written and mailed a responce to the editors. Sorry.....had a soapbox moment.

Oh, and Mel, 2012....20+1+2=23. haha

*sighs at Kiley*


I wasn't saying that those things really would be what happened, I was just giving examples.


I don't know what it's called that I think, but I still stand by my belief that, if we believe it will happen, it will happen.


btw, Finn, we're doing The Crucible as our fall play and I'm Betty, a.k.a. The Stereotypical Possessed Horror Movie Girl. All I can ever think about when I'm at rehearsal is how much I'm reminding myself of Ginny in CoS. :P :)



~Mel

That's a fun role for you... I don't know you personally, but I bet you'd be good at it...

anyway, I dunno. I think it's a real possibility. And when that day rolls around, I will want to be sure that with my friends and my mom and stuff. Just in case.

But, God, it's so depressing to think about. If something did happen, I'd only be 20. I won't even be able to legally drink, although I don't like the way it tastes anyway. But on the bright side, if the world really does end, I won't have to worry about what I'm gonna be when I grow up. lol

Yeah, well at least you would've had a lot of time to live on your own. I only graduate a year before then. At least I'll have some time, though, if it does happen.



~Mel

I'll have my BA or BS by that time...

Whoa, hey is that a fact? That's some pretty scary stuff lol.

Yeah, I was watching a thing on the history channel about it. They don't know what it will cause, but they think it could cause the poles to shift. but yes, the planets will be in direct line with the sun I think, and there's something to do with a black hole...I dunno...look it up. I'm supposed to be doing homework. lol

Actually... That's not true... Alignment of the planets does not cause mass extinction. There was a theory that if and when the planets would align, gravity and tides would kill us all, but that has since been debunked. In 2000, the planets were aligned, and I still have a pulse... Also, the planets aren't going to be aligned until 2438, which is farther away than any of us will see...

If you want to read more...

once again, I never said the planets would be lining up. I tihnk it has to do with the sun and earth and a black hole, but I don't know. I'll find out more tomorrow durring english when I'm 'typing my research paper' lol

Black hole? I don't know how that relates with the Earth being in direct contact with the sun. Nvm, this is all very interesting.

GOOGLE TIME! :P

lol just to tell you, if the planets were aligned then it would have nothing to do with a black hole. a black whole is a star that is at the end of its life. It is completely invisible, no light comes from it. It squeezes matter into something like a noodle and sucks it in, and no one knows where to. There is not a black hole anywhere near Earth, the closest one is in the middle of the milky way galaxy, which is light years and light years away.

hm, I like how paige thinks I know nothing.

anyway, since I'm so dumb, here's the main clip from the show I was watching that explains it. I figured I'd let them do it instead of summing it up. Since I don't know what a black hole is or anything.

:)

Finding it was really hard too. Espically for someone like me of such low intelligence that they didn't know what a black hole was or that people didn't live without computers.

The clip from the history channel special called Doomsday 2012: The End of Days

but that's the thing, the black hole doesn't relate to the earth being in direct contact with the sun. it was just saying in the documentary that it was in the center of the milky way galaxy, which would also be aligned with Earth and the Sun. it has no significance whatsoever.

jeez, kiley don't take things so personally. I wasn't trying to be rude. think before you make an assumption.

Paige, you were telling her something that she's known since Elementary school, probably. Something most of us have known since then, probably (or at least middle school). How can she not take that personally when you've done the same thing to her plenty of times before? She wasn't saying that you were trying to be rude, she was saying that you thought she was stupid.



~Mel

I'm pretty sure Kiley was just messing around :P. Anyways, wow that's an interesting video.

I'll be sharing that :D.

Yeah, I'm retty sure kiley just liked to laugh at the reactions she gets when people don't comprehend sarcasm.

lol, James knows where it's at.


And Paige, that was pretty condescending. I just think it's funny that you feel it necessary to treat me like a second grader.
And if you're not gonna debate in the debate forum and just nit pick then stop spamming at me.