I can just tell that Harry is going to die... It's going to come down to a final battle between Harry and Voldemort and they are going to kill each other.

yeah, i think they are both going to die too. and i have a knack for knowing who dies. Like, fifth book, i KNEW sirius was going to die before the book came out. Same as i knew that commander root was going to die in the 4th artemis fowl book like 6 months before it came out and dumbledore in the sixth book. So i think harry and voldemort will die, let see if my guessing streak continues...

Harry might have a child though? That would be cool.

i dont think that they will kill each other as such, but i think they will both die.

i think the scar is the key. my belief is when Voldemort is killed, Harry's scar kills harry in some way. thats just what i think

Maybe, but I dont think the scar will play a part at all.

As for deaths I dont think Harry will die, Harry potter is Young Adult fiction, its not something we want, after the story beong dragged across 7 books we dont want the MC to die, I just dont think it will make a good ending.

it wouldnt be a bad ending though, and its the only way JK can get out of writing more books about him, which she wishes to do

But she mightchange her mind. she might want to do more books on him, therefore not killing him. I don't think he'll die. If he dies, every little child that reads harry potter will think that evil triumphs over good. which JK doesn't want. she's not evil.

Harry won't die. I would like to bring up the relationship with LOTR and Narnia here, none of the Main character's die:

Frodo lives
Lucy, Edmund, Peter, Shasta, Caspian and Susan also all live.

The only evidence you have of him dying is one small thing that JK said in an interview, and I believe she said it as a joke else she would have been giving away to much:

Interviewer: Will harry have any more adventures after thelast book?

JK: WHo says I will keep him alive?

<all laugh>

or somthing like that.

that doesn't sound serious, yea, jst a joke. and the comparison makes sense. Harry can't die. it will depress people.

she got hate-mail after killing Sirius. i dont think she cares about depressing people

or at least, i reckon she'd have gotten hate mail. i know some people probably considered it. Sirius dying depressed a lot of people, and Sirius was a more favourite character than Harry is. there arent many that say Harry is their favourite character, but a lot say Sirius

Admittedly I hate Harry as a protagonist, takehim out of the situation with his parents and voldy and remove his scar, whats left: a bland idiot!

All other characters have so much more character, although Sirius never really captured me, I never really thought much of him.

Fav Charries:

Moody
Snape
Dumbledore
Umbridge
Lucius and Draco Malfoy

yep, ill have to agree there.:

Fave characters:
Snape,
Moody
Dumbledore
Draco (im not a lucius fan)

and everyone knows i like Ginny, not for her being an amazing addition to the plot, but because she adds a change to everything. i dont, i just like her. same with Luna.

Okay, I disagree. Harry is not an idiot. He's got remarkable courage and a pure heart. that is character.

so what? he wouldnt have all these things without his parents dying. hes nothing special, just a boy prophecised to kill someone. hes not almighty in any way shape or form. his physical characteristics are that of a weak teen, he's very emotional, he's not particularly bright, half of his things he got through purely through luck and help, and he's not really fascinating, because hes more predictable than the others. you never know what other characters are going to do (i speak about Dumbledore, Snape, Malfoy) and their unpredictibility make them much more interesting to read about. if Malfoy had to go through what Harry went through, that would be excellent, as Malfoy is a much more interesting person than Harry.

I agree. I'm not all that crazy about him, sometimes I honestly forget he's the main character. It seems like it's more about him, Ron, and, Hermione and he's the one that stands out the least in my mind.


I keep changing my mind about whether or not I think Harry will die, but I think it would make a ood ending. I think it would be more interesting.

Do you all think Harry wanted his parents to die? He'd give anything to be normal. So it's not like he wants all that... Harry wouldn't be normal without his scar and his parents dieing. He still would have been a great quidditch player and a quite powerful wizard considering his background. He might of even became a great auror. I think it would be fun if JK made Harry Potter from different points of view. Like Ron and Hermione's view. And Ginny and Luna do really change everything. Lets see Luna is funny and weird. Ginny has pulled Harry out of depression, been his girlfriend, and she's been saved by him. Without Ginny the second book would have been different. I think she will play a big part in the final book.

~HP~

The 1st part seems totally unrelated to what we were just saying about Harry.

Yea. But I mean come on, He's the best in their year for Defense Against the dark arts. and he's pure hearted, How can that not stand out?

Because paige hes like every other hero in every other book, a bland character thrown into a spectacular situation, nothing sets him apart from anything else, he has no quirks, major flaws or weaknesses, he possibley the worst character of the books even though everything is through his point of view.

It was also never mentioned that he was the best at DADA, just really good.

No, Hermione said he was the best in OoTP trying to convince him to lead the DA.

But so what really? Just because hes good at something doesnt make him a good character.

Examples of Good Characters from other Books:

Artemus Fowl - A great main character, and hes the villain accept all the readers are on his side. (Artemus Fowl)

Robert Langdon - Excellently written. (Davinci Code/Angels and Demons)

Kohler - I felt myself in near tears when his backstory was revealed.(AandD)

Sabian Blake- Greedy and has depth (Wormwood)

Beauman (SP) - I thought he was a good MC (Slaves of the Master, The Windsinger)

None of these are as bland as Harry.

Harry has emotional weaknesses. I don't really care anymore lol.

yes, Harry has emotional weaknesses, but MC's always have weaknesses. they are never the big person whose better than everyone. he's no different to Frodo, who is a terrible main character. Harry's weaknesses are emotional, Frodo's are his size and strength, yet they are both brave and pure of heart, and are thrown into the problem, although they don't wish to be in it. LOTR is actually a good example. LOTR's main character is Frodo, yet without Gandelf, Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli and Sam, it wouldnt have any effect at all.

Yes, the best stories are about where the MC faces trouble head on, with no real help from anyone else, they have a fear and have to overcome that fear, they are scarred yet come out shining brighter than ever. Harry has been cradled since Book 1

Okay. It makes me sad that you guys dislike harry as the main charrie, but whatever. I think he's a good main charrie.

we're allowed our own opinions, so no need to be sad. but we have outlined why we dont like him and we have not said "we dont like him so you cant"

true, true. But my life has always been "If you disagree with someone, prove yourself right." thats why some people think I'm arrogant. I still think harry is nice though.

harry is a whinning little prat. "my mommy died." "voldemort is out to kill me" "owww my scar" boo hooo. I dont like his character. he can at least be nicer then he is

OMFG! I LOVE ARTEMIS!!!! he's the best. and i love his character. He's so evil but i love him. He is one of the best characters created all time.

Another really good character is Bartimaeus fromt he Bartimeaus trilogy. I LOVE HIM. he's really funny and he has good logic and he's sarcastic (i love sarcasm).

Harry just doesnt connect with me.

I have to agree. (B4 Artemis. lol) But I do like Artemus Fowl.

Paige: "if you disagree with someone, prove yourself right"?

thing is, you cant prove yourself right, just as we can't. its a discussion, not a chance to try and win people over to your point of view.

Tim would know...

Yes Artemus is so evil bt you find youself rooting for him and wanting him to destroy the faeries.

what do you mean by that Adam?

I know I can't change your minds (although I'd like to) but that is what I do. that is how I have always lived my life. so I think your misjudging harry. Judging him very unfairly at least.

again, the words you used were "i think". I think that we are being perfectly fair, as it is our beliefs that he's a useless pile of sh*t

You can't prove yourself right when you're discussing oppinions anyway.

correct, its my oppinion, to you it may be wrong, to me its right.

Yes, Harry is indeed a usless pile of s**t (LOL!)

You guys act so cruel and are definitely not funny. even if he is a character.

Not to be mean Paige, but you're acting a bit babyish.

(I'm not calling you one, only classifying your behavior)

^YEP!